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Weekend Recap, and All Things Astrology
A weekend recap with Jay and AJ and listen as they delve into Astrology with our first ever guest, Mason Escamilla!
Hello, hello, hello and welcome back to your Dose of Delusion. It is me, your host, yours truly Jay, and I am sitting right across from the. Oh, my god, the posing, the talented, the gorgeous, the shoulder shimmering, shimmying, quintessential, aj, aj, how are you Tell?
Speaker 2:me everything. I'm so good. It's been a very good week. It's been. It's been quaint. Actually, it's been a very good start of 2024, and I'm looking forward to the. You know how it's shaping up and everything. How was your?
Speaker 1:week. You know my week has been so incredibly busy with work but I did have a fabulous weekend, which was fun. But I want to touch base on what you just said right now about 2024. Do you remember every year we come out with those memes that it's like? You know the months go like January, february, march, april, may, June, really fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:January is also flying by.
Speaker 2:But, like we said, like time is flying by. No, you're right about that.
Speaker 1:But I was looking forward to us slowing down in January, like it always happens and it didn't? It is flying by again, no, but my week, my weekend, was great. I think last time we talked about I was going to go see Wicked, oh yes.
Speaker 2:How was it?
Speaker 1:Oh my, we're getting right into it. It was, it was so good, so I've recently gotten to like the theater.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I know, not, not like within the last year. Yeah, I know, bad, bad, bad J, bad, gay, bad, bad gay J. Yeah, they're young, no, so I went to go see Wicked and we saw the majestic here in San Antonio, downtown San Antonio, beautiful, gorgeous theater, absolutely gorgeous. I was blown away by the production of Ellie. Now, keeping my age, I had never seen Wicked before. Not any type of you know recording of it. I hadn't heard anything about it. All I knew is that it was Wizard of Oz adjacent.
Speaker 1:Oh, right, okay, that's all I knew so, and then also I only knew the two very popular songs Defying Gravity and the popular popular. That one that's all I knew. It was such a great story.
Speaker 2:It is yeah, befelda, or whatever her name is.
Speaker 1:I could actually never say her name correctly.
Speaker 2:Befelda, Befelda, Befelda.
Speaker 1:No, I think it's like an A.
Speaker 2:Afabelda, you're close, afelda, I don't know.
Speaker 1:We're the producer.
Speaker 2:I know, fuck it, you're our producer, I know.
Speaker 1:I know Her but no, the talent, the, the production. You know I'm a huge fan of Rent and I did see Rent here a year ago, actually just about a year ago and I love that. All of a sudden you every song. It was great, it was amazing. But the production value in Wicked was a hundred times better, made Rent look like a high school play.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was beyond what were you going to say.
Speaker 2:I know my mind somewhere else right now. Oh my dose of reality. I'm so sorry. Keep on going. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Okay, Okay, We'll get to the second. No, but the Wicked what I mean the production oh, nothing that I loved about it is.
Speaker 1:So I didn't know much of the songs other than those two that I mentioned, but I would. I would imagine that fans of the show would know a lot of the music, and every time they played a song or a saying a song like nobody else did and allowed us to to listen because that didn't happen at Rent People in the audience were quietly but still singing along, so I wasn't able to fully, you know, experience the, the vocals of the performers, which was frustrating, Amazing though.
Speaker 2:No, I'm sorry for Rent. Yeah, but on Wicked everyone stayed silent.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 1:And it was. Where did you see Rent? I saw Rent at what I mean it was at the Tobin, but it was like at their B-list theater. It was a very small, small stage, small, and that wasn't even a stage. It was just a big, large room. And it was just a big, large room and then it had like some stadium seating and the production was so like where there was like scaffolding, then a platform and then a staircase, and it never changed. The only thing that happened is they'll roll a table in and out, but the stage never changed. Carpage, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly At the Tobin In their B-list theater. Well, you know, it is what it is. You could see Jesus Christ superstar in their main performance hall, and that was fabulous, you know.
Speaker 2:in hindsight I do regret not taking you up on that all room.
Speaker 1:But you were my say it again First choice, First choice.
Speaker 2:But that's fine. That's either here or there and I won't bring it up again.
Speaker 1:I can't promise that actually you will, you will no. But then we saw Wicked. It was amazing. I was for some reason beyond exhausted. I did not go out that night. I came back home like a good boy. When was when was that? Was that Friday? That was on Friday night? Oh, good for you. And I didn't go out.
Speaker 2:So do you remember how it was? Like no one asked me to do anything. I don't want to do it. Like I don't ask me, because then I will fucking go.
Speaker 2:So they asked me and you went, and so my weekend was just like kind of like nonstop. I think I went out like right, I can't it's all of like it's a jumble in my head right now, but I did go out and I did see friends. Oh you know what? I went out because it was, I think they were just having like drinks or something. What did I do Friday? I can't recall, but Saturday I did end up going out when that was my. I'm going to stay home. I'm going to like fully unpack, which I still fucking haven't.
Speaker 1:It's okay, girl.
Speaker 2:I remember it took me three weeks to unpack for my trip it makes me feel slightly better, and it was only because I was having company. It makes me feel slightly better.
Speaker 2:But so okay. So I went out Saturday because it was a friend's birthday, so we went out. We went to that new bar let's be honest right by Zebra's. Super cute. I've only seen it from the outside. I finally went on the inside and it was just like way bigger than I thought. Now is that where? Somewhere where I'm going to go all the time as of now? Probably not, but it was super cute and the potential is there.
Speaker 1:And you want to be a founding customer. So we need to go now, while it's still relatively new.
Speaker 2:You know, with the bartenders being who they are and the garbage service I received. I don't know if I want to be a founding member, but I will be an advocate to change their bartenders and then I will continue my support in that way. But I you know. So it was a fun night. It was a cute night. There was a little after. You know I love an afters, so went to a little afters and it was just cute connecting with my friends that I hadn't seen in a long time since I had been traveling and holidays and they were sick prior and they went on a cruise and you know so I hadn't seen them and they're a part of my like super, we're going out every weekend, crew that we see and tax like on the daily. So I hadn't seen them in so long. So it was really really nice to like connect with them and like see them.
Speaker 1:I am so happy you had a much better Saturday night than I did.
Speaker 2:So what happened Saturday? What do you mean?
Speaker 1:I wish I could tell you and don't get it twisted. No, don't get it twisted.
Speaker 2:Actually.
Speaker 1:I, maybe I did.
Speaker 2:You did text me and I was like oh, she's a massive new responding.
Speaker 1:And that is so I don't. I still don't know what happened. I I know I did not want to go out. I definitely don't want to. One of my friends was asking me and I wasn't going to go, but he was here in my apartment area and he was having a couple of drinks with my neighbors with one of my neighbors.
Speaker 1:So, that you know what. Let me go have a drink with him, at least now to soften the blow, to say, hey, I'm not going to go out with you. So I went over there, had a drink. The friend he was going to go out with was already pretty toasted and I asked you. No, that was still 100 percent sober at this time, just beginning of the night.
Speaker 2:So I asked him.
Speaker 1:I was like hey, who else is going out with you? And he was like no, just me. And this person. I was like, oh, ok, I'll go with you, since you're going to have a really bad time. It was just you. I know that person is well. So I went out anyway and maybe that might have led to what happened. So I had three drinks all night long. There was four of us total and I didn't buy to spend a time.
Speaker 2:Tell me, but these were like peg drinks that were probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the only thing I can think of which is four drinks in one? Absolutely, it has to be because I had three drinks, and tell me why I blacked out.
Speaker 2:I that's like having 16 drinks at a straight bar.
Speaker 1:But I mean I often go out and have lots of drinks. I don't know what happened. Either way, it did not sit right with me. I mean, I destroyed my room. I know it was really, really terrible and I have to go out and kind of like redeem myself.
Speaker 2:I have to. Let's do something cute tonight. I might have an idea. After this We'll discuss. You'll have to let me know off pot. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:But no. So other than that, I finished up my weekend. It was nice, it was a lot of fun. I think you mentioned that you have a dose of reality, so I do Okay.
Speaker 2:So last time I was talking about a friend of ours from when I was in PV right. The the muscles, a little server at Lamar. Yeah, okay, so I'm such a fucking bitch. So okay, I pulled a share.
Speaker 2:Horowitz from Clueless you know the scene I'm talking about where she's like Lucy, da da da and like a Mexican you know, I don't speak Mexican and whatever, so fucking rude. And she's like I'm not the Mexican and whatever. Okay, so he's the sweetest person. His name is Henry and I adore Henry and he's the sweetest thing, like I was telling you all. And well, he sends me a message and he's like oh my God, I heard your podcast. So sweet, but I'm not from Mexico, I'm from Ecuador and I was like huh.
Speaker 2:Called out, but like in the sweetest possible way, because he's so sweet and genuine.
Speaker 1:Wait, hasn't that happened twice to you?
Speaker 2:Excuse me, nick, who? What? Oh a pop up, pop up, pop up. Stracenur. Thank you, um, but but hold on like getting a whole different country versus mispronouncing One letter. A name is is a little.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, and I Nick Stracenur is the sweetest and he also is very, very sweet about it and but Henry was so sweet and like laughed it off and he needed he's from Ecuador, everyone, and which means you know he had the cutest dimple, the sweetest smile and the juiciest muscle arms that I ever like felt it looks like I need to book a trip to PV ASAP and meet this Henry. Yes, you do, from Ecuador.
Speaker 1:Yes and go ahead. I was going to say okay. You know what I first of all listener. I have to say thank you, because never before have I been getting. Obviously, when we first started this, I was getting a lot of our friends and my family reaching out. We love the show.
Speaker 3:Yada, yada, yada.
Speaker 1:Now I'm getting to the point, to where I'm getting people who I don't even know Slide into my DMs. Follow me on my social medias, which I've been terrible at mentioning my social medias, which I'll do today, but, um, and it just goes to show that you all are listening, you all are sharing and we're so happy.
Speaker 2:Same same me too, and you know I love that and I love that. Um, you know we're reaching out in touch and that's the whole point of this. You know I, we have a platform and you know it's just I. I feel that I was put on this earth to just kind of parlay messages and just kind of like speak my mind and give other people a different point of view, which I love to give my point of view clearly.
Speaker 1:And for me, I feel almost regretting starting this podcast, because all I've done is highlight my um lack of education, my lack of manners, and I come on here to get bullied every week.
Speaker 2:Now listen, now I could speak. I can't speak for any of the last part because that's your opinion on that, but you did that to yourself.
Speaker 1:I did and I love it.
Speaker 2:You know what you're doing and that's just you. I mean, you don't know geography. That's why I'm here. You know you're you. What might be your weaknesses are my strains, which I think this is a fantastic balance between us. Um, but I did have to get that out of the way, henry. I'm so sorry. I had a very. I don't even know how to, but I apologize. You're so sweet and you were so. Oh, you and Marcelo were so sweet to welcome me with open arms and invite us to your home for Feliz Navidad. Then you know, and have all that experience, and and let me have a piece of my home in your country, um, that you currently reside in Henry's from Ecuador and is not a Mexican, he's Ecuadorian. So so I love you, henry, I love you Marcelo. Um, but that was my dose of reality that I needed to have. Did you have any doses? We? I feel like we haven't had any doses of reality lately.
Speaker 1:I don't think I did Um, cause we did have our producer the last couple of times, so she kind of my notes here.
Speaker 2:Um your dose of reality. You didn't delete your apps.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry I forgot we talked about that off pod but I'll bring it up. No, it was, it was off pod.
Speaker 2:I feel like we've mentioned you needing to delete.
Speaker 1:No, we talked about a couple episodes ago where I said I'm done, I was annoyed.
Speaker 3:I want to delete them.
Speaker 1:You've been joked about deleting them right now and I was like I can't. I'm recording on my phone, all right.
Speaker 2:So this is my dose of reality.
Speaker 1:Exactly my dose of reality maps. I. I went to delete them, cool, so you have to open them up. Go to the acrobat account. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like you know what, let me, let me brush this off, literally blow the dust off, something. All right. So I refresh and I get a couple of messages. So I start chatting and I'm chatting more. This is fun, and we're chatting with one person. The other message comes in and next thing, you know, it's all night. I'm just chatting up and down, reconnecting with old flames We'll call them, you know and I was just like, oh, my goodness. So this went on for like four or five days.
Speaker 1:And I realized I was supposed to delete this a week ago. And now I'm back on them after talking so much shit about them and all I got to say is people change.
Speaker 2:That's not the right comment. That is not the right comment. Sure.
Speaker 1:Time flies and people change Right.
Speaker 2:Or they don't. But the time flies, but yeah aside from a dose of reality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know that last time you were talking about.
Speaker 2:So, okay, so I have this friend that I know socially, that I've met through mutual friends, through you know, my little like dance parties and stuff like that that I have. So we're friends on social media, right. And he, you know, we've liked each other's stories, we've, you know, liked each other's posts, type of a thing. And then I saw in his story reflecting something about like astrology with, you know, sun sign, moon sign, rising, and you know me, I like all that kind of bullshit, right. So I was like, oh, cool, he knows that stuff, I know that stuff, I'm really good, I know all about that shit. So I thought I was going to be very impressive and I was like, oh, this is my son, moon rising, which is Aries, aries, leo. And I was like I bet that explains a lot. And he was like ha ha, like you know, just a little like chitchat and whatever, whatever. And I was like I didn't know you liked astrology. He's like, yeah, I do. And I was like, okay, great, I have co-star to you. And he's like, well, yeah, I mean, that's not the, but sure, like I have that up. And I was like, well, give me yours, I'll give you mine. And we decided to exchange coast or names if anyone doesn't have that app. It's a very like basic astrology thing.
Speaker 2:Anywho, and so like, in like a week later, like I forget about that conversation and just like move on with life. And you know, just doing my own thing, I randomly get this like novel of a message that is like hey, I hope you don't mind, but I did a couple of digging on your chart, really, and the things he said and pointed out, jay, like I was very impressed and I was astonished. And I he's he was, you know, a friend of a friend. He was an acquaintance that I had met, that I didn't say anything to. He doesn't know anything about my past, he doesn't know who I am, he doesn't know where I came from, where I was from, he doesn't know anything about my family and a few of the choice things that he decided to point out. I, I was speechless, I was shocked, I just couldn't. I just couldn't.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, okay, that blows me away, but I am actually so excited that after this, you are one very willing to have him on our show, I know. And then two made it happen and brought it to fruition. I did. Which leads me right into it. You know, our very first dose of delusion and guess. And so we have with us today. Now, listener, there are very I consider myself a pretty well rounded, decently intelligent person. Nothing really makes me feel a little educationally inferior, except for a one a rolled map.
Speaker 2:If you know, you know, I love it.
Speaker 1:And two our guests we have today. He has a Bachelor of Science in Economics from American University in Washington DC. He just graduated with his Master of Arts in Economics from right here in San Antonio, utsa, where he focused on data analytics and business forecasting. He worked as a research assistant at the Eurasian Center in DC and he interned at the Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy. Please welcome our very first guest of the show, the educated, the articulate, the passionate and, dare I say, very handsome, mason Eschemia. How are you Tell us everything?
Speaker 3:Well, I appreciate the really star studded introduction. Just playing my resume, please. Jobs come to me. So a little bit more about me. On the personal side, I guess is that I'm not originally from San Antonio. I'm from a small town called Eden in West Texas. Ok, where in?
Speaker 1:West Texas.
Speaker 3:So do you know St Angelo's?
Speaker 1:Yes, I do.
Speaker 3:It's close to there, ok, and like it's about a couple, maybe 45 minutes outside of St Angelo, and so it's like Contra County, that area, but it's small. If you travel any other like large road you won't make it and you pass through it in like three seconds. So we moved here when I was about seven and I've been in San Antonio since then, and then I moved to DC for school and stayed there and then I moved from there to Hong Kong to study abroad and I lived there for about eight months.
Speaker 1:All right. So, small town, san Antonio, a small town, eden, texas, yeah, and then to San Antonio, and you were in San Antonio for what you said, seven years old, all the way up to high school.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like about 18. Yeah. And then on to the bigger city of DC, which DC is smaller, but it's like big, like things are happening. Yeah, more populated definitely more populated.
Speaker 1:You know, I just saw something recently where, because I have a good friend of mine who is from New Jersey, new York, and he's like San Antonio, is so small, excuse, me, I know. And then I saw a statistic of some sort that was actually said that there's like three times the many people in the San Antonio area than there is in one of those cities he was at and I was like San Antonio is one of the largest cities in the country.
Speaker 2:The seventh largest, the seventh largest city in the nation 1.3 million people are some of the greatest in the country.
Speaker 1:And the great nation of Texas. Thank you, ok, so then you went to Hong Kong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I studied in Hong Kong for economics and things like that and then I moved back. I went back to DC. Covid hit. Basically my situation in DC wasn't very stable because of Covid.
Speaker 1:Right so.
Speaker 3:I came back home, graduated online from a bachelor's, looked for work here I currently work at a research lab here in San Antonio doing more like quality control stuff, right and because of my schedule there and them being really accommodating, I decided to go back to school to find a different job, like a more like career job, and then through there I just started to like reacquaint myself with San Antonio as an adult, which was a completely different experience because, like I had never been to a bar here even though I lived here for a long time Right, I'd never been to like the Gay Strip or St Mary Strip or anything like that, and me neither.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and building new, the lies we and then building new like friends there and also getting introduced into certain communities, the circuit group and that kind of thing, like relatively recently, and building up a couple of relationships from there was how I got here and I think it's just been an interesting time.
Speaker 1:OK, so I did read your resume, as you said. Right, that was a lot of fun. You know digging, I mean, I think I learned your parents' names and your, your sister and and all that information, which is a lot of fun. But what? And I was, I was blown away by it. I mean, 25 years old AJ he's a baby. No, but like what did we accomplish at 25?
Speaker 2:years Don't.
Speaker 1:But Speak for yourself. Obviously you should, oh you should be very proud of yourself. You too, aj, you should be very proud of yourself. But so what I wasn't expecting was to learn how you were so educated in economics. But you also have this other passion for say it with me, because I don't know how to say it. Astrology, astrology, astrology.
Speaker 2:I, you know, and even I'm so sorry, even on the way over here you were just spouting some. He's just very spiritual and very, you know, since he's so well traveled at such a young age like he's, he's experienced so many different cultures and has embodied some of it, Some of the things that he was like what you mentioned about the hair and not to get a haircut, Could you please say that for the new please? Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's predominantly like a Chinese custom during like the New Year's period to not cut your hair. Yeah, he is good luck and stuff is at the beginning of the new year and so it's like the energy that is good is like completely full at that time. I'm totally like making my own analogy of it. Yeah, but either way, you catch the blessings that other people bring upon you or the New Year brings upon you and they can like get stuck in your hair and so it's bad luck to like cut your hair close to the New Year, because then you cut those like blessings free. What?
Speaker 1:happened. I love it so what happens if you have no hair. No hair Like I don't want any names to be you.
Speaker 3:No, no, blessing Sorry.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I didn't even put you with you together. It's such a bitch, or did I?
Speaker 3:explain that same concept to someone that right after they were telling me about them getting a touch, like a hair touch up, and they were like don't do me like that. And I was like I love, I'm just you asked my opinion, sorry, no, I love.
Speaker 2:I love it and that's that attitude that you. I mean. I didn't ask his opinion and he just released so much and it was via Instagram DM and I was just like I'm speechless and he's like, was I way off or was I right? I was like, bitch, you pinned the tail on the donkey and I just I was so blown away by that Because, again, I thought I knew a lot about astrology and stuff and just the different things that he had mentioned, which is what I want him to kind of discuss and kind of let our listeners know about, is not just the basics but different aspects of it. But he went in and started talking about conjunctions and trines and this and that which we will not discuss today. That'll be our other episode that I hope you agree to come back on In addition.
Speaker 2:Yes, but, but but yeah. I was just so blown away, Jay was. I was astonished.
Speaker 1:I am, I feel, like a certifiable dumb bitch because when I was trying to do my own reading, I kept you know using the internet to Google terms of a straw Like me a straw and a me. I was like, why can't I find anything they talked about? So that's just me. Now back to astrology. The only thing that I know is my sign.
Speaker 2:I know my sign and the sign after me, and that is only because it's right after me, but when you say that, you mean your son, which everyone knows, our son which that yeah, we go into that.
Speaker 3:Like technically everyone has every sign in their chart. I've had every sign in me.
Speaker 2:No, we know, we know.
Speaker 3:That's a good catalog sometimes. But yeah, technically it's like a. I mean, we'll get into it, yeah, but yeah, the sign that people associate themselves with is typically like the sun sign, which is the one where it's like oh, if you look at this number of dates, okay, that's the general one we see all over.
Speaker 2:Everyone knows.
Speaker 1:Chinese menus and place cards and everything.
Speaker 2:Not Chinese menus, that's different I could order any menus.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:But yeah, when you look up, like what's my horoscope? And it's like if you're bordering, this time that's going to be the sun sign. Okay, so astrology is rooted in? It is rooted in some type of astronomy, but one that we don't use anymore piece. It's debunked which is the geocentric in the old time, when they believed that the earth was the center of the universe and everything rotated around it. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:It's not because I'm here on it and everything revolves around me, it's working around you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, obviously Hello.
Speaker 2:That's why you're here.
Speaker 1:Okay. So now I am again. You're just wow, Okay, so you're saying that that whole typical where, if I'm between what? December 21st and January 19th or Capricorn, only that theory has been debunked.
Speaker 3:Yes Wow. So, because what those things are? It's from a geocentric positioning of the stars, like how we're viewing it from the earth. So it's like what we're looking at and how it's rotating we're assuming that it's rotating around us and so for the early astrologers, they noticed that the sun followed an exact path through a 12 group, or 12 different constellations.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Those 12 constellations became the zodiac because it constantly follows that path through them for about a lunar period, like about 30 days, roughly 30 days. It actually like intersects with one, so they can see it like not only does it go over all the signs every day, but one sign it'll actually pass in front of and that's where the seasons begin.
Speaker 3:So in the Capricorn season, December 22nd to January 20th or whatever it's passing over the Capricorn sign and it's like blocking it from our point of view, and so it's like it's absorbing that energy and that's how we get the sun sign, which is what people typically associate.
Speaker 1:Okay, now where do they get these? Look the animals associated with, because the other Capricorn is known as the goat, and the only time I've been referenced as the goat is when the word throat comes before it, but Stop that.
Speaker 2:I've never heard that.
Speaker 3:Not for you, at least quite the opposite is what I said.
Speaker 1:Number four. So where did the animals come into play with the animals?
Speaker 3:whatever symbols they are, piece of them are. Some of them are animals, I think most of them are. Some of them are just symbols, like objects, and then some are people or like certain, like.
Speaker 2:Libra, which is scales, which is not an animal at all, just like.
Speaker 3:A query is which is the water bear?
Speaker 3:thank you someone dropping water out of a fucking pitcher, but whatever but yeah, the symbols are like the things that are associated with it. I think that goes into like a deeper concept about astrology, which is it's basis is in what's known as like intuitive knowledge, which means you can't really like objectively figure out what it was like. There's not any like. I believe it's this and I applied this trial to it. Culturally, those symbols were passed down of like around this time, these things are happening and we associate it with either. These things are these animals? Are these Other symbols like people?
Speaker 2:so like, for instance, because I want to talk about me, like my sign Aries, my son sign there known as the child. They're the first there is spring, their birth there. You know, the beginning of all astrology is because I'm a leader. Is that what that means?
Speaker 3:but but yeah. So again that goes into like. We now look at a more like scientific calendar which starts January 1st, right, but in the days prior to that scientific knowledge, the spring, when all the plants are born right come out of the ground was considered the beginning of the year, and that happens to land in the Aries time you're walking and so that's when, intuitively, they were like.
Speaker 3:When all the plants are born is obviously the beginning of the cycle right, that would make sense, yeah, so then the first signs Follow that direction because also it's focused on like cyclical or systemic knowledge rather than like each thing is unique and different. It's more of Everything flows through a path and everything is inherently valuable at different levels or for different purposes. You don't Harvest the crops in the spring because they're just starting out, so like those kind of ideas of like Facing rewards and things like that aren't inherent to that timeline where that kind of period of the year and that pushed through those things everything's flying over my head right now.
Speaker 2:You know me too.
Speaker 1:But no, okay. So I do have another question, and I don't know if this ties into what you were just saying or not, but what's about Astrology? Yeah, what about? What about astrology? Where do we get the, the personality traits that come along with people that were born On a certain date, in a certain location, at a certain time, that you know identify who they are?
Speaker 2:so, and I'm so sorry, maybe I just kind of so and.
Speaker 2:I think that that's where A lot of people find it so hard to believe is because the sun signs are very they're very surface and very like. If you really read about a lot of them, they're very similar and the deep dive that I went through and I saw and I started reading is different planets. What so for me that your birth chart. It depends on when you were born, the time you were born and where you were, which is what constellation and how the sky was directly above you, in accordance to where you were born, all kind of matter and shape, the different personalities, and I've kind of known that, which is why I'm like I know so much about it and in reality, I don't win.
Speaker 2:I hear someone like Mason Go in depth on on. Well, this planet is here and it's in this and in this constellation. That's why that and and that's kind of why I brought him here today, so that way he could help enlighten us that it's not just the sun sign. There's so many different planets on our chart that we all don't know or realize. And, like I said, I know some of the stuff and and he's just a lot more knowledgeable, knowledgeable about it. And I want people to have a better understanding on that and that you know, and and if we could Start parlaying in that and if we have questions with some of the different planets or whatever, then we'll, we'll kind of pop in, but, if you don't mind, kind of like getting into like the sun, the moon, the rising and and whatever all of those aspects are, it'll, it'll be able, it'll help people understand themselves a little bit better, and that's what I want. I want people to understand themselves on why they're that way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think that is one thing about like understanding astrology is it's a little bit like it's not necessarily exact or precise. Back to like, like what it does fall into, like what I was explaining before, of like it might be a good thing to look into. What is In. Intuition is a. I think in the modern world we use a system of like deducing knowledge, or like finding knowledge through what is known as like logical empiricism, which the More plain like the more way we know about it is, through like scientific method. I do this to this thing and this happened, so therefore, since I saw it happen, I can know that every time I do that, this will have logical fallacies, exactly, and astrology doesn't Garner on that, it's garden on like it's.
Speaker 3:The biases are inherent, and To shy away from them shies away from how we've like absorbed the knowledge around us, and so everyone is going to interpret charts and things like that differently. Right. And for what AJ was saying to build on that and then to move into other things that I'll talk about is that the position? Again, like what I said before, the geocentric nature of astrology means that where you are on the earth means that certain stars are in certain places from our perspective, even though in the universe, like as we know in astronomy, they're always in the same place from us or they're revolving a certain cycle. It changes based on what you can see in different parts of the earth. In the same thing of like, we can always see the eclipses. They move, they move around like. Recently was the only time we've been able to see.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, it was amazing. Did you get that energy where you were able to?
Speaker 3:I got to see it and I got to piece. I got a couple like eclipse glasses and it was really fun.
Speaker 2:It's happening again during my birth month of. April and there's this huge and it's passing right over taxes and there's a right over where I'm from.
Speaker 3:Actually like it's just a little bit farther west from San Antonio.
Speaker 2:There's a huge party going on. Are we going to do it?
Speaker 1:I already got a ticket, okay.
Speaker 2:It's my birthday. What about me?
Speaker 1:Okay, veruca, I'll take it.
Speaker 3:But yeah, so I'll start with that and also start into talking about the planets, yeah, please.
Speaker 3:The big post I want to do with that is like how costar has focused on the planets as an app, and I think that's the one. Not like a gripe, but I would say it's a criticism, as in like they apply a certain method to their astrology, which is because costar is focused on getting as many individual people on the app. They make a very individualized chart and how they do that is focusing on the planets, because the planets are like the active agents of the chart, like they're applying action to wherever there are or whatever aspect of the things that they're in, but it's not rooted. If you don't have a planet in a house, costar will simply disregard the house, but that doesn't mean that that place isn't like feeling some sort of energy. What is a house? And I will get into that.
Speaker 3:So I love it, but I will be right now and also positioning with, to determine, like the rising sign that happens in people's chart that changes every couple of minutes, because what that is is the rising, is whatever sign is on the horizon, and they shift over the horizon and move back down even though, like the sun is passing through them, they're also moving around us.
Speaker 2:I was spinning. I thought it was every two hours. Is it minutes?
Speaker 3:It could be two hours it's, it depends, it can change it changes really rapidly.
Speaker 2:Okay, everything else Right.
Speaker 3:I always thought it was a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2:Well, producer Lindsay, where are you when we need to, but that's fine.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh. But yeah, those kind of things, that's what matters. So the right, so the rising.
Speaker 2:What is that? What is that to pick on someone when someone says oh, I'm a Leo rising. What does that mean?
Speaker 3:So I think for the sun. My like analogy for the sun explaining how it matters is like if all of your closest friends and all of the random acquaintances that have ever experienced you said something about you and average that together, that would be the sun. It's like the overall exposed the, both your public and personal combined, like just based the sole idea of your like legacy on the earth. Okay, where the rising, the, and it's also called the ascendant it depicts. For that point we think of like the right, the horizon, as like the beginning, and also like the first thing you see.
Speaker 3:It's like when the sun rises, it's the first like area that we can see. And so that's more about like the individual personality and what people from like a one on one would perceive from you. Coastal also uses it and I think it's a really good analogy as like the mask, okay, as in the first thing that people interact with you, as like that kind of layer that you have is more like the ascendant, okay, of just your general application, of how you act as a person versus the sun. It's not just how you act, it's like a combination of like what you do, maybe sort and like statuses and things like that, versus just like how you respond to situations, okay, or like what you're just point blank interested in, yeah, and that kind of thing. And so I'll start with, I guess, for Coastal, like again, like it focused on the planets and then pinpoints those and also the ascendant, because that's an important point.
Speaker 2:Is there, and I'm so sorry, and then I'll let you continue. Is there like a different app or something that we could or should?
Speaker 3:utilize. I imagine there's smaller ones and I think it's not so much.
Speaker 2:You have a favorite one.
Speaker 1:That's what I was going to ask you. I want to know what your favorite one of what your best recommendation is.
Speaker 3:The bad thing is, I don't use any.
Speaker 2:She's. She's licking her finger and flipping. I know there is a website that I use.
Speaker 3:That I like a lot, but it's more for, like, making the charts. I feel like it's more accurate and make some more general thing Okay. And it's known, as I believe it's, cafe Astrology.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, I have that one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's free.
Speaker 2:Does it have an app, and so I don't. It doesn't have an app, it's just a website, and I know like typically ones like. I don't want to download. I'm like, okay, fine, and I just like free birth chart, and that's the first one that pops up and that's what I use to like kind of give people a little bit of schooling on it.
Speaker 3:So I like that one. Yeah, he's also compared to costar. It shows some sort of some planetary bodies and goes by a different philosophy that I agree with more and you can't release it. So like Chiron, which I won't get into because I don't know that much about it, or like the south and north lunar nodes shows those where like for costar, it doesn't.
Speaker 2:Right, I was like what the fuck are those? Yeah, let's not talk about it this time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we can't talk about this time, okay.
Speaker 2:It's too much.
Speaker 3:But I'll go into basically. So a birth chart is an idea of when you were born. This is what the cosmos looked like in because you were born at that time, so you need to know location, date and time when you came out of your mother's vagina or, like me, abdomen.
Speaker 2:Or I'm a platinum diamond gay.
Speaker 1:I'm a platinum car. I was not going to come out of a vagina.
Speaker 2:Are you kidding me? I would never.
Speaker 3:Up out of the ocean like a sprite or a mermaid. I told you I love me so much, but so the natal chart is comprised of three pieces. You have the houses, the signs and then the planets, and I'll go. I need to use my notes to explain it better.
Speaker 3:So the houses start with the rising and that's the first house and they they comprise. So the way we look at the sky is from like a circle or a 360 angle, because we're on a globe, and so each of the houses comprises approximately 30 degrees of that 360 degree circle and they're set at that 30 degree and from the ascendant they move in a counterclockwise direction, from the left and so from there each of the houses basically represent a different aspect of the life. The first house is personality, self expression, and it's also associated with like appearance. Second is usually like money and acquisitions, like wealth.
Speaker 1:Which house worries about lighting, like and wearing first?
Speaker 3:oh, that's definitely presentation and the rising sign, leo, shows there's a lot of flair.
Speaker 2:The attacks. I'm gonna get everyone, if you see oh.
Speaker 3:But yeah, and it goes down through that, the first, and so that's what the houses mean. They're just kind of more like geographical positions and so there's 12 houses, Because there's okay.
Speaker 3:So the first is like you had said up here and the second, third so far and going on as the houses go in the cycle, they usually are associated with older or more abstract concepts. So obviously the first one is the person, the individual and what they think about themselves or what they know about themselves, which is very concrete. We understand ourselves very deeply. And then it's like how much money we might have or what kind of job we might ascertain, or those kind of things. And then, third, is it's associated with our communication style or what we do in interacting with our nearby group. And then the fourth is the family. The fifth is going to be like children, projects, sexual expression. I also consider that one like the hookup or the trist kind of house, because it's like small, fun things that aren't very consistent. Which else is that? The fifth, okay. And then the sixth house is it a big house? Is it a mansion?
Speaker 2:No, I was just looking at all my numbers and I only have one, four, five, nine and ten on my. What about all those in the middle? No wonder I'm poor. There's no two in my time. Two.
Speaker 3:Some people go with like no planets in certain houses unscathed. He's also from some logics in astrology certain houses are in here like, are seen as harmful or like malefic and so them being in a house harms that house or like that idea, with whatever energy they have Like most people consider like Pluto, a relatively harmful house or a harmful planet. So, going on from the houses and I'll get more into that, so yeah, the houses take up 30 degrees of the sky. There are 12 houses. The 12 signs represent certain qualities, ideals and actions. They affect the qualities of the houses and the planets that they're in there all question, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2:So Just you to kind of like a little bit more knowledge because, or like basic knowledge, we we may not have all of the houses, but we for sure have all of the planets.
Speaker 3:So is that correct? You have all of the planets, all the houses and all the signs.
Speaker 1:All right. So if you have, so everybody's gonna have all the planets, all the house, all the signs, but they're not always gonna be prominent.
Speaker 3:Yes, and that kind of goes into like what you count as prominent. There's a lot of astrology schools that just go like house to house, regardless of if there's anything, and they're like this is your house of this. It's affected by this sign and that's the energy it has, but that doesn't mean it's going to be a very active or conscious part of your life. And so I'll go through, like the houses, and explain them. The first house is of self identity, self experience. Second house material possessions, money values. The third house is peers, communication. It also is associated with, like younger siblings, things that you affect heavily. The fourth house is associated with the home, your family, your origins. It can also be associated with nationality and those kind of things. The fifth house is creativity, romance and children. You can think of fifth house as like your creative projects also.
Speaker 1:I do like how he reworded it, because first he was like a secure twist in that your hookup culture, but now it's like creativity and romance. So I'm updating my grinder. I'm really into creativity and romance.
Speaker 3:Six house is associated with like health, wellness and routines, and like daily routines. To be more specific, once you move out of the six, you go through seven and twelve and those houses are more Interpersonal, as in it's how you interact with the outside world. And you start with the seven, which is the most important Partnerships, contracts and marriage. It's usually like your long-term partner is associated with the seventh house.
Speaker 2:I have nothing in my seven.
Speaker 3:You have a sign in the house like it always has something, and then the eighth house is of inheritances. There's a sign say dead end. Eight houses associate with inheritance. It's also so should sexual expression typically, and also it can be associated with like other people's money. So I think that's also why I use and why I asked for like the circle. Yeah, because I'm like the circle is better, like it's a much better way to look at it than that thing. So he hides some stuff where I'm like where are these other houses? Like I'm having to predict stuff.
Speaker 2:I screenshot your little circle chart and send it to him, so I would be the only one you could talk about. I was like, don't just talk about me, because my life is hell oh so yeah, the.
Speaker 3:All the houses and the signs. They all land somewhere and it's important and I can go through that a little bit late. The ninth house is about philosophy, travel and higher education. It's like your ideals and ethics Okay, and From there you have the signs. They represent different aspects of like the emotions or things that you feel or the ways you go about those concepts, and then the planets are going to be the actual like how you personally interact with them, versus like what you think about them or what they should be, and the planets deal with certain. The planets are associated in different categories of their elements and modalities. They follow the classic elements air, fire, water, earth and it shows kind of their and so did the signs. Whichever Element it lands on is kind of the aspects it has for. Like fire, they're like passionate, their Initiating initiators and those kind of things. They can also be kind of like hot tempered.
Speaker 2:How dare you?
Speaker 3:And you have like earth signs that are they're stable, they're grounded, but they can also be materialistic and greedy.
Speaker 2:How dare you? All I'm being excited at AJ every four seconds, I know, but all of them you're saying I'm just about me but yeah, so like we can go into some like examples if we want to please. Yeah, yeah. So what? Do you have any examples that would stand out to you that you like, I mean we could base it on, since you said some stuff and did some research on me?
Speaker 3:I don't mind, my life's an open book, so I can definitely share also, like my chart, and now I have you my things. No, I want to hear about AJ no I know.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, and just real quick and I'm gonna let him elaborate. But, like he, you know how he said the fourth house is like about family and stuff, and that's one of the things that he had focused on. That made me speechless because, listen, guys, I Didn't have the. I did not have the best childhood. It was very strict parentage and you know it was. It was very tough and traumatic. And he used those words on me and I was like get the fuck out of my head, stop reading my fucking chart. Like you, like I don't, I don't speak about that. You know what I mean. The past is a past and I am who I am because of it and I'm appreciated of it and I don't hold anything against anyone, but it was just, I was my, I was mind-boggled by it because I was just. How does someone just looking at a chart, by knowing where I was born, the time I was born and and the date I was born, that he had that knowledge? J, I was just I. I was flabbergasted, I really was.
Speaker 1:So if you want to go ahead, well, you know I Don't know if this lines up with that, but I remember years ago I was in Like sixth grade. My mother was in college at the time and she had done this huge report on birth order personality, right, and so that I adopted it, she, she watered it down for me obviously from my science for a project was actually confused a lot of the judges Because everybody like fifth is this grade, is doing volcanoes, right, and I went on with this big theory based scientific project based on actual research, not I hate, I hate the word research. I tried to refrain from using it. I'll tell people let me do reading, not research, because, as you know what research actually is, that's not what we do when we Google something that's called confirmation bias, but so, but you know, here I am and I think fifth grade actually Basically my whole science project on no volcano, no, whatever it was actually Help.
Speaker 1:Help with my mom's college course was birth order personality and it was up the three children on just the order they were born into personalities and not in in. This person who founded this theory was 15 years from the oldest. That all three siblings were 15 years apart, so they grew up in a whole different times. Yeah, right, yeah, and they still mimic the same birth order personality that we do today, where it's only a couple years apart.
Speaker 3:So the reason why. Yeah, the psychology of like how we rear and raise our children is very Interesting, and I think also like a little bit about my own personal life, like me and my parents and my sister talk about it Me and my sister seven years apart.
Speaker 1:Your sister Isabella.
Speaker 3:Yes, a little stalkerish, don't really poster, I'm like well, bitch you?
Speaker 2:is you knowing what you knew when you sent me that DM?
Speaker 1:I was like get the fuck. Yeah, this is your mother, renita, doing I still love that.
Speaker 3:But going back to that, like I'm the older sibling and I exhibit a lot of older sibling like Responsibilities or things of like I get this work done versus my sister was a younger, and also between my parents.
Speaker 3:My parents were really young when they had me and so I inherited a lot of those like being almost a third parent to system in a lot of ways, yeah, and for my sister, she got to have them as, like, complete and fully mature adults. And not only that, we grew up relatively, I would say, low income when I was young and then when my parents got a little bit older, they moved here to San Antonio. They found better jobs, we like catapulted into the middle class. And for my sister, she always lived in that life where I knew a very different life, growing like initially growing up, and and not only that, me and my parents talk about like I was the. I was the child that my parents had out of whatever, and my sister was the child that my parents had out of love. Like their situation it's stabilized because I was.
Speaker 3:No, it's not that big of a deal, no, but like okay.
Speaker 2:but I get what you're saying because you're right, like, as you know, when you have them young, you don't have the money, you don't have whatever. And or you know, like I like to tell my sisters because they're the older ones, I was like you were the mistake, I was the one that was planned.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, and that, like, totally affects your, but they weren't, no, I love them so much.
Speaker 2:No, listen, our parents did it. They did it was we didn't ask.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm the oldest.
Speaker 3:I'm the oldest, and so the oldest have this sense of like responsibility, or like I have to help them, um, versus like the younger is like they're supposed to be there for me, and so my sister has like a much better time of like asking for things because there's what a Seven-eight year gap between you and your sister.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, seven years, I believe, psycho. I know I do my reading up on my guess. I believe she was 17, 18 right now. No, okay, no, so my brother, my brother, how old am I? I, I'll be 30. Oh, I'll be 36 in a few days, right, I know? Thank you for that.
Speaker 1:I'm not cutting back and my, my, my next brother is like 30 and the one after that is 28 or whatever. So there's a gap between me and the other ones. Obviously, I Wasn't the planned one, you know what I mean, and the other two were. And you're right, growing up in a whole different socioeconomic statuses, households, I think, plays a lot in the roles, but I I'm hoping that you can understand how I was tying this back into your oh my god, astrology. I keep want to say astronomy and to the astrology of just like, not only like when we were born, time, location, date, stars and whatnot, but you know Even the order we were born in. Like everything's in a play, a role on our personality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and maybe we were born when. We were born because and that's why we're in these positions because the planets were in those Positions.
Speaker 3:I think the way the planets happen to line up with long-term things in like human existence, we have situations where, like the generation of, like the greatest generation, had a bunch of children Because they weren't sure if they were coming back from the war and those kind of things, and then that developed into the baby boomer Situation and those generations have certain different concepts, that kind of follow different things. There's a lot of like social patterns or inclinations that we associate with like us as an individual, but really we are like listening and receiving a lot of information and like absorbing it subconsciously and then it just follows like how we do things.
Speaker 2:And that, if I might chime in, has to do with some of our planets, like, for instance, pluto, is generational because it's in.
Speaker 3:That's actually really interesting because for costar, I feel like I believe they're very unique in considering it a generational planet. Many other astrological systems or schools either will Pluto the last three, pluto, neptune and Uranus are kind of they're a little bit of a controversial concept in astrology because there are some old heads that are like we didn't consider those planets before, there was only the original seven, so we still don't consider them Like they're not important at all. Costar views them as generational, which is very unique because most astrologers that do accept them still consider them like individualistic, like it's still unique to whoever. You are Right.
Speaker 2:But we were, I mean, like those planets, and I think it's like something like seven years or something that they're Pluto's, I think like 15 years yeah like they're and which would obviously like beyond generation, because there could be like two generations in a 15 year period or something, but like they're considered generational because of the amount of time that they're in our In a sign world chart.
Speaker 3:Yes, so, like the 15 year period that it takes to move from sign to sign because again we go back to, the signs take up approximately 30 degrees in the sky, and that's why they were chosen, because it was easy to chart how the sun was moving. So for a planet like Pluto to move from the beginning of the sign to the end of the sign, to get into the new one, it takes approximately 15 years, which is a long time. Like it's in the same thing, giving off the same energy for about 15 years, versus like Mercury is moving fast. Bees are so close to the sun and it's so small that it's moving through a sun. It's moving through, I believe, every 15 days.
Speaker 2:Wow, okay, what is your Pluto in J? Do you know? Do you have? I have Pull it up, I pull it up.
Speaker 1:I have no idea what my Pluto is, because your Pluto is in his Pluto, is in his Scorpio. As you would say, I don't His Pluto is interesting.
Speaker 3:Well, I find all of them interesting.
Speaker 2:No, well, the Puppa Pluto, his is interesting why.
Speaker 3:His is interesting. I'm so sorry. No, you're good go on. His is interesting because it lands at the end of Libra.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:Or no, it's actually in the middle of Scorpio, yeah, and it's at the end of let's see one two, the ninth house. The ninth house is the house of like ethics and things like that, and so does that mean exactly Pluto is associated with. If you're gonna imply that I don't have, very many, not a typical person.
Speaker 1:No, it's not that Actually.
Speaker 3:It's interesting to have that. It is kind of like in a weird spot for that house, but it's in Pluto as a planet is kind of associated with death or like Hades is like one of the Greek gods, it's at the very end. It's associated with death or intensity or transformation.
Speaker 2:And the ninth house means what again?
Speaker 3:The ninth house is of ethics and things like that. So it means that either you have, you may have like very strong convictions, like very intense convictions towards things, especially with Scorpio.
Speaker 3:Scorpio is the planet associated with Pluto and Scorpio's concepts around it are transformation, intensity and change, which means you might be a person that likes to like do a lot of rebirths and things like that. It could also be associated with travel, these ninth houses. Basically, the ninth house is like the steps and journeys that you learn along the way through an external like institution.
Speaker 2:So my Pluto is in my Libra in my fourth house, and that was one of the things that we had discussed.
Speaker 3:I think, if you think of the fourth house as the home and where you were raised, you don't want a planet like Pluto, because Pluto is the planet of intensity, of like transformation and change. What you want for the fourth house is things that are like stable, calm, peaceful, and so it means that it could be that you have a very intense view of family or there was very intense situations with the family and how you were raised. It could also be because, I believe, was yours, yours was in, it was at the end of Libra and Libra is about stability. So Pluto is impacting. Yes, so Pluto was in Libra, in the fourth house still, and it was impacting. Libra's areas are peace, harmony and stability, or like balance. A planet that's associated with like transformation and change isn't very attuned with the ideas of balance and so those things kind of like coral with each other. So it might have been like there was a deep or an intense desire for like stability and there wasn't one.
Speaker 2:Jay, when he was telling me these things, my eyes watered, and it was a lot Okay.
Speaker 1:so based on literally the last no, not the last, but those 45 seconds he went on about my Pluto, I was just flooded with emotion. I, mason, I need to schedule. I need to schedule a personal reading and off pod.
Speaker 2:On actual no.
Speaker 1:I don't mind doing it on pod, but it's gonna have I'm giving a little bit of insight.
Speaker 3:I did go through it a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yes, please.
Speaker 3:In my notebook, but I will share it for later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, no, no, I listen.
Speaker 3:Okay guys.
Speaker 2:So I, I Mason, I want to have you back because there's just so much to talk about and I just I was just so impressed with the things that you said and, like I said, I'm an open book and I don't mind going over some of the aspects. You know about me, you know, cause I lived my life and I did what I did and I am who I am and I'm proud of who I am and I feel that it's shaped all of us and what are you know. I just feel that there's just so many things that we could go into and a lot of a lot of right now.
Speaker 3:There's so many.
Speaker 2:I have so many questions.
Speaker 3:So many avenues and I think there's so much to go over and it's hard to like explain it all and then just like get into it sadly.
Speaker 3:But I think the one thing that I would take on that message is simply that astrology is like it doesn't have a beginning or an end and it's not set in stone. You learn certain concepts and things throughout your life and basically until you, until the day you die. You're learning new things all the time, and so you can always interpret the charts and things from a different point when you get older. It's like I look back at this and it's something I no longer hate about whatever it was, or maybe I didn't like that but now it's like I look back at that time with a little bit more reverence, a little bit more kindness to myself and things like that, and it can be used in that way too.
Speaker 2:I love that and you know, and that's definitely where I'm at. Like, what I've utilized this for is to find out a little bit more about why I am this way and I don't wanna be that way, and that's not gonna define. I'm not gonna let because I popped out why didn't pop out? I was cut out at this time and this place define and make me be who I am and that's why I have to stay to be.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna continue to strive to be better and do more and if that's an aspect that I love, I'm gonna cherish it and I'm gonna be like I wanna be more like that, or if it's something that I'm not really good on or enjoy, like I'm hot headed and hot tempered, or there were some things that you said about like my work ethic and stuff, that I was just like shit. I am like that and I didn't even think that it was because this planet was in this house or whatever, and what I desire with my life. But there's just some things that I've always known, that I'm just like I wanna be better and I don't wanna be like that. Now is it's still gonna continue possibly, but I'm gonna strive to acknowledge it and be better and that's what I want. That's what this was all about. I want people to look into it, see a little bit and then be like you know what that's. I don't wanna be that way. I wanna be better and I wanna do something more, and that's what this was about.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna have you back and go more in depth and maybe focus one episode on Jay, because there's a whole lot to go through, there is and me at least four episodes, because there's so much we could do.
Speaker 1:we could actually consider having him back. No, you're coming back for sure, so it might be a little bonus. But instead of a mini, like a maxi and do a full reading. We'll do a full maxi, you know, and we'll let you go in because I know you have so much more to say. I know you do and I trust me. I wish I want to hear it on. I'm going to.
Speaker 3:But I think it's definitely yeah, I think it's one of those things People participate in something like astrology, in many different cycles. Some people like to buy those yearly calendars with a little affirmation on it, or like Co-Star gives you the little messages, or whatever. People like to follow certain cycles or messages and sometimes they just need that guidance from something that they view as like external, but also absolutely something that isn't biased, like it follows these certain concepts or preconceived ideas.
Speaker 1:I do see, that's what I want. I want no, I did all my research on you. You're a little creeped out by it, but it's what I do for a living. I would love to hear everything you have to say about me, without you knowing anything about me, and see how it goes Exactly.
Speaker 2:You'll be so impressed, because I definitely was, and he only gave me a tiny bit, and then actually on the drive over here, he gave me a teensy bit more. And I'm like, wait a minute, you didn't say that. What do you mean? I can't, I just couldn't at that moment. But I digress. But, mason, thank you so much for joining us and I hate to cut the short, but I feel like it hasn't been that short, but it's just. I want to have you back again. I hope you will come back and join us for another little astrology sesh, but thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you for having me. Absolutely, I think next time I know more of the feel and I'm like I just got to jump into it because I'm like I could go on and on and that's the problem with just how I communicate is I could just keep going.
Speaker 2:No, it's been great.
Speaker 3:Not great for a one hour.
Speaker 2:No, right, no I don't.
Speaker 3:I simplify this message.
Speaker 2:It also doesn't help that we can't be fucking serious we can, we can, and so that's what we might have to do, like a part one and part two.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And on those, because we will interrupt and we will interject and have something to say and just kind of giggle for a little bit. But also we just like talking about ourselves.
Speaker 1:And we do, and we just can't stop. This is the most narcissistic podcast ever.
Speaker 2:What a dose of delusion it really is. But again, thank you so much for coming and thank you so much for listening. And join us again next time where we will discuss other things and more doses of delusion and we will go ahead and do more, just more about our lives and everything. But again, if you would love to follow us on Insta and Socials, you could follow the pod at Dose of Delusion, you could follow me. Aj the Silver Fox.
Speaker 1:And you can follow me, Jay, at 100 Shades of Coray and you could follow Mason at you can follow me at MasonMAISON-546 on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Oh, we needed to shorten that, but that's fine. Thank you so much for coming and thank you so much for listening. Bye.
Speaker 1:You all take care.
Speaker 2:Bye, but yeahNeat.
