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Jay's Farewell Party, and Astrology Recap w/Mason
In their final in-studio session, the hosts reflect nostalgically on a memorable farewell bash, inviting listeners on a journey back to the laughter-filled evening. Transitioning to a cosmic exploration of astrology, the hosts delve into the stories behind zodiac symbols, revealing insights into Capricorns and the dynamics of elemental influences on personality traits. As they dissect the traits of air signs, particularly those with a Libra rising, Aquarius moon, and Aquarius sun, alongside the fiery Leo ascendant of one host, listeners are encouraged to explore their own astrological makeup and perhaps coax the perpetually late host into punctuality with celestial persuasion.
Hello, hello, hello and welcome back to Dose of Delusion. It is me, your host, yours truly Jane. I am sitting right across from the incredibly well lit, the perfectly angled for his perfection, quintessential AJ, AJ. How are you Tell us every?
Speaker 2:Hey, hi, how are you?
Speaker 1:I'm hanging in there.
Speaker 2:Those eyes, my goodness. So this is our last in-studio recording. It is.
Speaker 1:So bittersweet.
Speaker 2:How do you feel about that, Aside from bitter?
Speaker 1:I mean bittersweet. I am overloaded and flooded with emotions, not just for the stress of the movement why? But even though we have got what we think is going to be a great platform to continue recording virtually, I'm no longer going to have you three and a half feet away from me at least once a week, judging each other with our eyes mainly more so, you, me, but yeah, I just.
Speaker 2:It's something I've perfected over time, I guess.
Speaker 1:You really have.
Speaker 2:I'm sad. I'm sad, but so excited for where you're going and what you're doing. You had your going away party. I did, I did, I did, I did. So I'm going to be here next weekend.
Speaker 1:Yes, I apparently arrived very late, just a tad fashion delay, no big deal. It was like two hours, I know. You were so late, I forgot you were coming. I texted you inside. I know that was very busy, preoccupied with trying to be the guest of honor that I was checking my phone.
Speaker 2:How dare you not respond to my text?
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, I'm so sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. How was that? What did I miss? How was your last weekend here?
Speaker 1:You know, actually it was really great. We did have a holiday on Monday, so therefore the military is off on Friday, so it was a very quiet Friday for me. Saturday rolls around. Two of my friends had spearheaded coordinating this going away party for me, and I specifically, because at first they were like, well, what do you want? You want this. I was like you know what? Listen, I'm not going to lie, I was a little skeptical on what was going to happen. They did a really good job. The guest list was pretty great. There was nobody there that I didn't want there, and there were even a few extra guests there that I had kind of put in a further backfouling box in my brain because they just hadn't seen them in a while, and so there were some faces that I was like oh my God, you're here. I thank you for coming. I wasn't even thinking about that.
Speaker 2:Who didn't you want there?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, but there's a glitch.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:But no, but it was a great time. They got most of my favorite foods, which aren't the best quality foods, it was still my favorite. There were no a decent amount of alcohol.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute. So your favorite foods were there. By the time I got there, there was no food. What do you mean? I also must have been very good, Actually nothing.
Speaker 1:Everyone knows that I adore.
Speaker 2:Dorito crumb Supreme burrito. One more time Crumb trap supreme. There you go.
Speaker 1:So they ordered a lot of Taco Bell. They ordered pizza to some of the snacks that I like. It was great and they had got me a cake. They gave a little speech. I gave my little speech back and it was just very, very. I miss the speech. I'm not going to repeat it here.
Speaker 2:No, but I you know what I do remember, because you were like oh, you know, I had my speech and I said what did? You say about me and you said, well, you weren't there, so I didn't say anything, but everyone else was there. So why don't you tell me what you would have said about me, since now you have me in front of me.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I will elaborate on this speech. What about me?
Speaker 1:Okay, people gave no start. I was like, well, you know, give me a little toast. And I'm like, well, thank you guys. And essentially I had just said you know what? I've learned a lot from being here and I've learned a lot from each and every one of you and I was like some, like you know, older friends and newer friends and different life lessons I've learned. So let's just pretend AJ was there, so I would hold up a glass, right, actually it was a cup of wine, but I would hold the glass and I would have said, like AJ, you taught me the true meaning of being a bitch and you would have moved on. So sweet, that was so good.
Speaker 2:Actually, no, AJ real talk.
Speaker 1:I don't know what I would have said, because I it would have come from the heart in the moment. Okay, so I don't know what I would have said. I can't pre-plan it.
Speaker 2:So you no longer have a heart, and this isn't a moment.
Speaker 1:It's not Give a nice try, so continue. No, it was a good time. Oh my God, the cake. So they got me a cake, a small little cake, but it was super cute. And now I know why.
Speaker 1:That kicked me out temporarily from one of our group chats and one of my friends texted me and he's like hey, we're removing you from this group chat, but don't worry, we'll add you back in a few minutes. I'm like okay, we'll do some party planning. I actually thought that we're going to get all of my worst photos and do a slideshow, which is something that I probably would have done. I would have been like give me the ugliest photos with the ugliest angles of person, whoever it is, and we're going to humiliate them one last time.
Speaker 1:No, so it turns out that over my tenure here, I've had some pretty obnoxious, sometimes cute, sometimes witty, sometimes self obsessed one-liners and that we've always joked about and whatnot. But they went through those, they went through my Twitter and they put it all together using, obviously, some sort of photo editing app to make it look like it was just me texting all these one-liners via iMessage. And they had him printed on edible images and put on a cake. And it was hilarious because some of them were very inside jokes, right. So as I'm reading them I'm just dying laughing. Some were sweet ones from intimate moments that not everybody knows about, but it was just. I got flooded with two years of memories from about 15 or 20 different quotes that were printed on this cake and it was very neat, very sweet, something that I think I'm a great party planner for doing cute, sentimental things. I would have never thought about it, so I found it very, very heartwarming.
Speaker 2:That's cute.
Speaker 1:It really was. That's so sweet. It really was. You would have seen it all, but no, I actually, I got there for the very end.
Speaker 2:I do remember they were being cake and they tried to give me a piece and I said absolutely no, of course not, it's.
Speaker 1:Saturday nights I did have to warn one of my friends who was coordinating and I was like listen, don't buy lunch. I know how this person is. She really likes to be generous and cater and make sure everybody has enough. I was like listen, I'm telling you. I said two thirds of the guests were all going to go out after and one half of those two thirds were all gay. Do not buy a lot of food because it's not going to get eaten. And so she definitely narrowed down how much food she got. So, yeah, it wasn't too bad, it was nice, it was a good time. Then we went out, we did a little bit of our hopping and a lot of them came out with us later on. It was a really good time.
Speaker 2:Good. I'm glad you had one last raw I did Good.
Speaker 1:Very good, I'm glad, and I'm so glad you were there too.
Speaker 2:I did go first, mitch. You know it's just like one of my mundane weekend things to do, so I had to course. No, not because of you. Just you know it's just like an everyday. You know we did our Sparky's Friday that we had been doing, so I've literally just been I'm blaming it on our show but I've been trying to spend as much time as I could with you and I love it and I appreciate every second.
Speaker 1:And it'd be like we're going to record. And then we just come and watch TV.
Speaker 2:Exactly so, yeah, so you're welcome for getting you into the Feud series so obsessed, so glad for that, that you're enjoying that, that we have something else that we're going to be able to catch up on and enjoy, and various other projects that we're going to be doing separately, but together through this in our miles apart that we're going to be doing, but I think that this app that we're going to be using Riverside thank you so much is going to be very, very good. I think it's been fantastic. So I'm going to miss this studio.
Speaker 2:But, I need to make sure I have the right setting and everything I do. Kind of like this angle, though, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:Girl, it's a little too high. No, I know, but when I'm like this.
Speaker 2:It's like good, but then I get too far from the mic but I digress. So today what I was thinking about doing is inviting our friend Macy Wasey back Sweet Mason, who was our astrology expert. So I want to go ahead and have him do another kind of like, just kind of revisit everything that we had spoken about last time and, if we have questions, kind of go over those and then see how that goes. So he will be joining us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I had actually got a lot of feedback on that and I still have some close friends of mine who, like every day we're together, they'll pull up the little app and they'll be like, oh, it says this. And I'm like, wow, but they had a lot of, they took a lot from that episode. They've all downloaded the app Coaster that we were using and there's obviously various ones out there, but they're really happy with it and they'll be like well, can you ask your friend what this means?
Speaker 2:And I'm like no, ask him yourself I don't want Instagram, exactly. And I'm like.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what it means. I'll forget by the time I see him again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a wealth of knowledge, so I'm really glad that he was able to come back and join us for this next episode and then maybe some future ones, where it'll just be us here in San Antonio and then you way off wherever you're going. So, without further ado, if I may, go ahead Please, Ace Mason Please no big intros, stalking like you did last time.
Speaker 1:That was okay, listener. Okay, that was actually it. I got actually actually Mason join us. Yes, please Go ahead and join us, hi how are you doing? We're doing fantastic. And let me first start off by saying I am slightly humiliated, but because you called me a stalker, live on the air Well we weren't live, we could have edited out what we left it because it's real.
Speaker 2:It's real. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:The thing is, mason, is you know, you were our first guest on this podcast that we're doing and I do listen to a lot of podcasts and I was like, oh, they get to know everything about their guests. But typically these very successful enlarged podcasters, they have celebrity guests on where all that information is public knowledge. And I hadn't quite realized that we're not like Joe Rogan and so I'm like I'm going to learn everything about him. And as I was speaking, get, I realized this is kind of no. As I was listening back I was like yeah, that was kind of creepy, but for that I apologize, but obviously don't hate me because you hear again.
Speaker 3:So no, I'm back, but yeah, I think it was. I definitely remember AJ being able to see my face just like changing and like, oh wait, what? I was mortified for you, so learning experience for all of us across the board.
Speaker 2:I think you were a trooper, you were a trooper and you weren't too scared to not want to come back. Yeah, so if you don't mind I know it's been a while Can you provide us with a little brief intro again with what we kind of went over last time and kind of like you know?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then I wanted to revisit one of the questions or I'm going to start with one of the questions that I remember Jay asking me that I couldn't quite pin down, the answer for which was like where did the symbols come from? Because I was like that was something that I do Like I don't know the answer to and I wanted to figure it out.
Speaker 2:So basically a lot of those.
Speaker 3:like the original astrology, the one that we use, was based in Greek and Babylonian ancient culture and so they came up with the signs and how we understand the signs came from writings by the famous Greek mathematician and astronomer, ptolemy, and he wrote in this book called Tetra Biblos. And the zodiac attributes itself to different stories within, like a fusion of those cultures, different myths or stories about gods or the children of those gods or things related to those gods and spirits that they associated with phenomenon in nature. So you would have to like better understand the mythologies of like Babylonian, of Greek, roman or Egyptian culture If you some of it even pulls from there. All of it is kind of integrated into that area.
Speaker 2:So the last time I was in Babylonia it was so.
Speaker 1:I was like what.
Speaker 2:I knew you would like fall for it.
Speaker 1:The last time I was in Babylon was when I was in Chile. Well, no, it's Bert. Well, that's why.
Speaker 2:Babylon's gone, but Babylonia is the new place.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, I love that Just kidding.
Speaker 2:Continue.
Speaker 3:But yeah, so that's, if you knew. If you're a person that has any sort of like Greek mythology knowledge or anything like that, you're going to kind of get where these stories come from or where these symbols could have originated, and if you want to know more about them, I would say, like, go that route.
Speaker 3:He's all of them stem from many different cultures, many different stories.
Speaker 3:But yeah, and then I'll just jump into like revisiting what I wanted to get across last time and make sure we all we don't have to look through so much.
Speaker 3:So, basically, what we focused on last time was reading and understanding people's birth charts, or natal charts. The birth charts are made of three main components, which are going to be the houses, the science and the planets. Everyone's birth chart has 12 houses and they have the 12 signs within it and, depending on who you go for your knowledge, they look at at least seven to 10 planets or like bodies that are moving around those circles. And actually that would be for the people using coasters, and so many people are using it now. So if you'd be able to see your full chart and not just the personalized one, when you go to the U profile, it'll show you the table version or you click chart and then you'll see the chart, which is like a square, and it shows you all the symbols and the houses where the planets are in. You'll switch from table to circle and it'll show you the whole thing.
Speaker 2:So even if a planet isn't in that house or in that sign, it'll show it and it'll show where it's at Right and then that'll, and sorry, but everyone has every single planet and house in their birth chart, so by and you'll be able to find that out by looking at the pie chart or the circle chart.
Speaker 3:But yeah and then yeah.
Speaker 2:so that's basically the basic thing you start from there. Okay, that's pretty big, I didn't realize.
Speaker 1:Okay. So because I mean you said, if people know a lot about Greek and I'm most even about Greek is where to get my best giro in town. God knows, I love a giro, but I've never done anything more like any more research on any other type of a Greek mythology or whatnot.
Speaker 2:So that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1:I want to go back and find out where, like the goat which is my- science symbol.
Speaker 3:You know where that developed? I have a hard time pinpointing that one because I feel like I can't remember anything specifically about goats, so I'm memorable. But if you recall, I'm a Capricorn too, it's just, I'm trying to, but it's.
Speaker 2:It's a water goat or something like it's half a sea goat Like yeah. So you're not quite like a seahorse, but like more go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not a regular goat, I'm a seagot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, totally yeah, because some put it as just like the goat, and then some it's like the seagot, which I always love. That some better piece, whoever draws it. So I have a question.
Speaker 2:So does does Capricorn tie in with the planet Neptune at all? Because that would make sense, because not especially Neptune was like sea.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what makes it interesting that it got the sea note connotation or seagot.
Speaker 2:Can't speak. But it's Capricorn Earth, or error, or what is Capricorn?
Speaker 3:is Earth. Okay, it's the cardinal sign for the earth element, obviously. So yeah, it's very earth materialistic.
Speaker 2:I'm going to miss those, obviously those are right.
Speaker 3:But yeah, they associate with the earth.
Speaker 1:You said you're Capricorn. Okay, now what? Like what side are you? I'm not even saying you're right, but like I'm Capricorn, like right before Aquarius.
Speaker 2:I say you're on the cusp.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, for your son. I remember looking at your chart I think we talked about it previously and I was like you're just a bunch of Capricorn piece, not only something that I focused on was because you have the moon, the rising and the sun, like the three, means ones that most astrologers look for a personality, so go is all in the same spot, which I thought was really interesting. But yeah, I would say where your son is placed, it's right in bit. It's very close to the edge of Capricorn, leaving Capricorn, going into Aquarius.
Speaker 3:I would say that's like a cusp sign, which means you might in what the sun represents. You might have some qualities that are like Aquarius and then some like Capricorn.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're very error headed, so that makes sense. No comments. So, you agree? Sorry, no, continue and.
Speaker 1:AJ, yeah, you are.
Speaker 2:Your sign is it yeah.
Speaker 1:You're born on April 11. Oh yes, which is Aries, do you like? What about? What about AJ? I?
Speaker 2:have a lot of areas. I have a lot of fire. I'm fire, fire, fire, yeah I would say the personality points.
Speaker 3:The foremost astrology, they view the sun and the moon as like the inner and outer personality personalities. So like the moon is more of like the inside, the inner emotions and things that you don't necessarily express all the time unless to people that you're safe or comfortable with, where the sun is more of like the outward expression all the time of your persona, things that people like see off you. You know the sun like illuminates things and so it's something that is illuminated off of you. For AJ, he has the sun and the moon and areas, which is interesting because it's like the inside and the outside are both the same. Oh no fucks.
Speaker 3:Yes, and Aries is known to be assertive. They're very self aware, or they're. They know what they want and they're very aware of what they can do and they can move that forward. They can be kind of aggressive, ambitious, never aggressive, never, self centering never. But yeah all those qualities of peace. And again, aries is the first sign in the zodiac and so it's like it's first in line. It's always like I need to be first in line.
Speaker 1:That's the energy that it possesses. But also hold on. There is not enough land on God's green earth for my eyes to want to roll as hard as they just did right now.
Speaker 2:I am who I am. I don't know what else you want me to say, Like I'm saying it without saying it.
Speaker 1:So I love that.
Speaker 2:And that's outside and inside to do imagine. And so then this is where the rising comes into play, or the ascendant, if you will, because that's where the sunrise and that's the first. Yeah, so that's the first glimpse, and, jays, so happens to be the.
Speaker 3:Capricorn, oh, all the way all three all three which is very interesting. He's just all powerful so well, all the way is the Capricorn not yet, but I will say Capricorn's love to be all powerful. They're very. It's in their head, in in their life. Also. They're very because Capricorn has a lot of similar treats to Aries I think but they're a little bit more like reserved.
Speaker 2:Well, the one and the goat so Ram yeah like farm goat Ram wild and on mountains, and goats like they get hurted by farmers. So that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Go on, Mason go on, anyways, no, no, well, the Capricorns can also be very independent in the same way the Aries are, but they are Guided more by like what they want from the world, where areas is trading a path for themselves, regardless of what they gain from it, both like material or like whatever stance it's just like is this is mine. It's more like about the self cap. Corn Feels maybe like a sense of duty to be like I need to lead, like I'm a better leader than other people and so therefore I should be in charge of things and I can manage things well and keep all these things organized for everyone else.
Speaker 3:Capricorn typically have a very big capricorn is considered like the father of the zodiac, so it has that very like Father, paternal energy of like that and I'm the baby because I'm the first one, the first one, yeah, and so they both have somewhat similar energies and they're just a little bit off because they're both the cardinal signs, so they both are like guiding their, their element in some sort of path. More element, more whatever the element areas is like more fire, like there should be more fire, and capricorn is like there should be more earth. So capricorn can be very patient. They're kind of like Resistant to giving into their own like desires and stuff because they think it's beneficial in the long run. But yeah, for the ascendant, the ascendant is like the personality overall and the map.
Speaker 3:I like how coaster uses it as the mask. It's like what people can pick up off you off of just meeting you. And also something that I read earlier about it was really interesting is that the ascendant is also the person the chart is trying to make you become Like. The overall story of the chart is going to lead you to this sign, the ascendant always associated with the first house, and the first house is the personality, the physical appearance and those kind of things. That's like the first thing that you see.
Speaker 2:So, um, it's funny that you said that appearance. So mine is the Leo, so that's why I have really nice hair, they say. They say if you're Leo, you usually have like big man and stuff exactly, shine your moon. If you're, your son's a capricorn, so what's your moon?
Speaker 3:So the big three I have is sun, capricorn moon and Libra, and then Scorpio rising.
Speaker 2:So I don't know what that means to go out and tell us general mix.
Speaker 3:I think mine's pretty interesting and some other people have commented on that. I have the cardinal earth sign for my son, which is capricorn, then I have the cardinal air sign for the moon, which is Libra, and then I have the mutable water for Scorpio.
Speaker 3:So the big three are not like in the same category at all and I would say they have very contrary views on certain things. For setting capricorn it's like there's a lot of the desire, or the appearance is very like status oriented, very about physical and comfort and stability, power and authority. Those kind of things are just, they come naturally or they want to come naturally. Capricorns can be ambitious, but they're not like overly ambitious because they have a plan. They're very patient and like goal oriented. They can see the path ahead of them like miles ahead and so they might not win this time or the next time, but they know in the end that they will be successful in whatever their endeavor. Is when Libra represents or it's simple as the scales is the cardinal. Air is the element of like communication because, again, the only reason we can hear all these sounds here are beautiful voices is because the vibrations travel through the air, molecules around us and space. You can't hear anything and so air is associated with communication, life formlessness like philosophy and ideas.
Speaker 3:Libra is the cardinal sign of that, which means it has a very idealistic view of the world. With the moon, it means that, as the scales scales typically represent justice it likes to be very fair. It likes to see both sides of things, like the scale has the two sides. It also is oriented around peace and harmony. It wants to have those things.
Speaker 3:So some of the negative connotations of that can be that Moon and Libra can be a people pleaser because they value harmony over getting what they want, and so they will push away their things if it means conflict, and so they are relatively conflicted verse. They want to be able to communicate and talk things out rather than, like argument, fight about what they need, which, again, that's the other thing is air science, because they're kind of formless. They can be very detached, which comes off as like an emotional or an emotive, because they have such like a detached view of the world or those kind of things To where it's not maybe grounded in what other people are talking about. At that time they can view like certain ideas or their own emotions from this far away place and they can pull themselves out of that in a way that many other signs can't, because they're feeling it.
Speaker 2:Would you say. Well, and like all signs have a sister sign. They say right, and that's usually the one that's like directly across from, like their on the circle.
Speaker 3:You can see that.
Speaker 2:So no, no, please, please you could. I was I was just going to ask do you know, like, for instance, what your Capricorns mostly get along with, or something?
Speaker 3:There's a lot of different like compatibilities with the signs and where they go, and typically it's based off of the elements. The earth and water elements typically get along where the fire and the air elements get along better.
Speaker 3:You can kind of see, you know like fire needs air to breathe that kind of thing, and fire as the element of destruction makes way for air, like it takes up the material space and leaves it empty. I love water and earth get along well because earth is the stable, the form. It's the very solid, secure form where the water is associated with intuition, with emotion and empathy and those things it needs. It struggles to make form and shape, which is like we're able to hold liquids in solid objects thanks to like that combination of earth and water. That those things can be stored and set in a stable form, that those things can be stored and sealed. Piece of the water was just like left out, evaporated on, goes somewhere else.
Speaker 3:So without the sister signs is an interesting like way of talking about it, because for Capricorn the sister sign would be cancer, which is the cardinal water sign, and I think it's the sisters kind of an interesting way to look at it also. I think they're very complimentary. What Capricorn lacks, cancer has, cancer doesn't have Capricorn has. Capricorn is very grounded, patient, goal oriented, ambitious in the very like material sense. Cancer is very deep, emotional, empathetic, to where it needs a lot of time to focus on and discover what it needs. It can dig really deep in its mind.
Speaker 2:I feel like I wouldn't get along like cancer, for sure would not like my, like abrupt forward right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, piece that's fire and fire and water. I just realized.
Speaker 2:So my mom, yes, and my little brother and one of my sisters cancer, my sister that like we kind of like the one that I remember that call that were Aquarius error, that's great, I just like I'm barely putting it together right now and she had so, oh, my god, didn't tell you so. So my sister called me and she was like I loved that episode. I was taking notes that your friend was on, it was so good. She was like, yeah, I'm in a query and you know, I was telling mom that you know, of course me and AJ get along. He's airy, he's air, to like, we both. And I'm like, sis, just because it sounds like air, I'm fire. I'm right. She's like I thought you were air and I'm like, no, it sounds like air, but I'm just I'm fired and then also that's another thing of.
Speaker 3:There might be. So where cancers and Capricorns are exact opposites. They can, they cause each other to grow, but growth isn't always like comfortable for Signs that are in. Cancer and Capricorn are both the same modality, they're both cardinal. Yeah, if you change modalities but keep those complementary elements, they can actually have a more like positive trait. So a mutable sign like Aquarius is the mutable sign. It's more of like the receptive Plus the cardinal, which is the more like pressing forward of the element they can.
Speaker 3:That allows the mutable to like take in that information and that knowledge and the cardinal is willing to give that stuff up very easily and so they actually have a very like. They fill each other where there aren't like holes in whatever they have and those kind of things. Mason, you left that really open.
Speaker 2:I tried to come up with something. Yes, the in a window here, oh.
Speaker 1:I did a find a cancer to help fill.
Speaker 3:Because, yeah, I think that's the one thing that Capricorns get the the wrap of being unemotional or like unfazed, relatively cold exterior, whereas cancer has that. Cancer is a crab, you can think of it. It's like it has this hard shell but it protects this soft meat and yeah, so it has that ability to like dive deep into some things where cap Capricorn cannot, and so that's kind of a message that cancer can learn is like you also need to serve yourself and whatever you need. You need to discover what you need and not just what the society deems of your. The society demands of you. He's Capricorn is very like society oriented and that's also why typically in like pop astrology, they typically have like. They're like conservative in nature politically, but it's more of like they're not gonna make waves If it's not beneficial in some way to like the greater good in their mind.
Speaker 1:You're saying so many things right now that are like resonating because of the a lot of conversation that I've been having recently, one about definitely like emotions and mixed here and I've been told also by friends. You know you said a net, not me, but you said Capricorn's. You know I can be cold on the exterior or we're not that deep of people. You know we don't. We don't go deep into our emojis, which, again, have just been Some major topics of some pretty heavy conversations I've had recently and which is another reasons why, like, I'm so happy to have you here and have these, these discussions, because it does kind of give me a different point of view or you know, on the why, you know I may have these types of personality traits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I never thought about before you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, it's always fun to look at things from different ways, and thank you for all the Commendation, but enough about me.
Speaker 1:I want to hear more about me.
Speaker 3:Yes, and then also for the, so with AJ, will get into that. The house of, wherever the Sun is, also affects like what is the overall goal. So I think the Sun is like the, the life goal, and therefore the outspurred exterior of what someone wants Generally, and so not only the sign that it's in, which is more of like the qualities it possesses, he's, it's like wherever the Sun is, it possesses that signs, attributes, and then it expresses them upon whatever house it's in. And so for AJ, his son is in Aries, which means the exterior is very fiery. There's a fiery personality that is ambitious, assertive, it knows what it wants and it will get it. It can sometimes come off as selfish or entitled to people that are not accustomed to that energy.
Speaker 3:Aj Sun also lands in the ninth house. The ninth house is it's typically associated with education, or like formal education, travel, philosophy and politics, basically what I like to think of it as is long journeys where you had to like learn something from a period of Diligence for a long period of time you think of like school. We go through like K through 12, and then on top of that, form our years for most for some people, and then two more years for other people and then ten more years. But yeah, so it's these things where you have to go on this, this voyage or this journey, and you learn something through that. So, with your son in Aries being in the ninth house, it means like there's a lot of your self-growth which will be Based in like journeys, or based in these like long tracks, rather than like you won't quickly like where you were from or where. Wherever you started from will not be who you end up being, and you have this long journey to go through to figure out the self and the individual.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're preaching to the choir. Aj, your son's eye is Literally right on point with who you are. Yeah and I yeah, I'm surprised it's not all three of yours.
Speaker 2:Well, no, but they're. I mean, but the rising is very similar in kind of like also explained a part of it. He's a set the.
Speaker 3:For AJ's ascendant is in Leo and Leo is the fixed sign for fire. So with the modalities there's three of each Modality in each element. The Cardinal is the one that, like of its element, it tries to push it forward or advance it forward. So it's very like outward face and it takes for that element. So, like for fire, it takes through its passion, it takes through its drive and ambition. It gets what it wants.
Speaker 3:For earth, it takes the material wealth, it takes the material stab status to get what it wants. For water, it takes the time and the emotion and the inner self to get what it needs, which is emotional, like solitude. For Libra, it takes the communication, the debating, the knowledge and the information to discern its most like intelligent thoughts and action and like beliefs. Whereas for the fixed, it's set in its ways. It's not moving forward or backwards, which means a fixed science. If you have a lot of fixed science in your chart, you probably are more stubborn person because you're not willing to move forward or back. You're very comfortable in that position and not really going in any direction.
Speaker 1:I would really love to find out who some of my other closer friends are, my little circles. I find out what their signs are to see if some of them are fixed science. I'm pretty sure one or two of them are fixed.
Speaker 2:Yes but yeah for the.
Speaker 3:For Leo it's the fixed sign of fire, which means it's comfortable in its flame right here. It's not trying to like take over other things, but it just wants other people to kind of bathe in the glow and the warmth that it has. And therefore Leo has that very like Outward, like look at me and those kind of things it's typically associated with, like the big personality and those kind of things, because it's just a very Stable, consistent fire. Energy versus like Aries moves forward, but it can be extinguished quickly. Aries People are known to be short-tempered or like have a low attention span or very little patience, because that fire extinguishes quickly.
Speaker 1:Can you repeat that again One more time for the lesson. I think, what now?
Speaker 2:everyone heard and they've seen and they know Sorry attention spans and a little patience. She because that's my moon too, so it's just like, yeah, terrible.
Speaker 1:Amazing. Let me ask you this. So like I love hearing about myself, so does obviously AJ, and we all love hearing about ourselves. I didn't realize that we were both Capricorns. I know I stopped you last time, but apparently I didn't remember your birthday. Um, that's fine, oh my gosh, actually I should have, because we recorded after the one day after.
Speaker 1:Yeah we give him a gift, I know anyways. Um, how does it make so? I just actually read a lot about me as those Capricorn. How did that make you feel reading by your own sign, because I don't think I would want to sit here and read about me or tell somebody about Me. You know, I don't like necessarily talking about me to an audience and whatnot. How does that like? Do you agree also with Capricorn and your own personality traits, like how aware are you and is a lineup with what you're telling me? I?
Speaker 3:think To a degree. Yes, I see that it might be a little bit more uncomfortable for you, peas. You have three of the big personality ones in the same sign, and so it's just like it's all the same. That energy is like tied really harshly, whereas for me I only, I only have the sun in Capricorn, so it's like an overarching theme of things that I like and overall where I want my life to be and things like that, but my moon is not anywhere near that no, we're emotions are very different.
Speaker 3:Um, and the rising my personality is different way, so I can still view up from a relatively like Detached point of view of like these. This is the Capricorn things. Um, but yeah, I have.
Speaker 1:I hate it here.
Speaker 2:But he's, but he's. But that like, like he said, the moon is, is an inside like, shut like you know, it's typically like the emotional side, or like the secretive side we think of.
Speaker 3:Like the moon has the ability of the other planets to like hide as in like the new moon or the eclipse. Like it has the ability to be hidden even when it's Technically should be visible because of the light that shines on it from the sun, and so it has those qualities of being able to like Hide away or step away, and so the sign that you have the moon in will typically be associated with your inner.
Speaker 2:And that's the error right. Your wasn't at the scales, Wasn't that?
Speaker 3:yes, for the scales um Libra, and so my emotional side can be um Kind of even tempered, or also like see both ways, which means I don't. I won't express exactly, because I'm like well, this person was probably Doing this or I wonder if this was going on during this person's life. So it's like I don't, I can't just like act how I want to because there's all these consequences to my actions. Um, and that's that goes into. Another topic about reading the chart is that certain Signs and planets either get along very well, promote each other's growth, or confuse or harm each other. I'm like they don't have a great relationship.
Speaker 1:Now, on a scale from 10 to 10, how much do Aries and Capricorn harm each other?
Speaker 2:Only emotionally. What's so? So my moves attacking your mood, that's what's going on.
Speaker 1:No, it's actually. It's funny because you know we go out and we enjoy ourselves on the weekends and whatnot, and then we always tell each other you know we're gonna go out for a little bit and we're gonna be home by midnight and that's never the case for together. But then sometimes we won't talk to each other all day, like on a Saturday, and we'll both stay in and we realized it's us for doing each other.
Speaker 2:I think we're just because they're fanning the flame instead of putting it out.
Speaker 1:I have the earth, giving you as much space as possible. So you want more fire. Here's more earth.
Speaker 2:Burn it all down.
Speaker 1:And then there's our queriest friends, who are like no water for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no air.
Speaker 1:Don't talk to me A quare.
Speaker 3:I think for Aries and Capricorn they have. It's that thing of like. You know, they're so similar, they hate each other. They can have. They have such similar energies where they like butt heads fiercely. However, if you can get those two signs to work together, they are practically unstoppable. Like they are going to go on a rage, because where Capricorn has the ability to like plan and like kind of think its way out. Aries brings the energy and the passion that can push that plan forward and keep it like energized.
Speaker 2:What do I say? I'm always like we can't do this. And then if you say, yes, you're twisting my arm, we're doing it, we're going out and we're staying out.
Speaker 1:But not only that. Like in a slightly more serious like, I'll tie you back to this pod. You know, I want to do this, I want to do that. This is my ultimate goal. And you know, I'm like, little by little, and it is like no, this is what we should do. I want to see it this way Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I keep calling him like he's my creative. What did I call you Creative director?
Speaker 2:Something like that. Oh, I guess I give it a title I don't recall that. So that's how I have a good creative control.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what I want to do, I know where I want to see this go and he's like well, this is how we're going to make it happen.
Speaker 2:And you know what's funny? I'm good at like starting or the idea, and then it's just like enacting it. I'm just like which is someone else's do?
Speaker 3:That's actually a very like cardinal sentiment. For the most part, the cardinal science can start projects like. They're very good at head starting a project. Seeing it through or waiting until it's over is not one of their strengths, and it shows in different ways for areas. They can definitely start the ball rolling but if they don't stay diligent to it it won't go anywhere because no one else will work on it. In their eyes and I think that's the one thing of like Caproborn has the I want to say methodological or methodological I can't say that word Very method person which is good for structuring and scheduling things. Can't figure out the word.
Speaker 2:Where Aries has that. That's not a cool.
Speaker 1:That's not. It is it. We'll have the dose of reality next time.
Speaker 3:On the next. Yeah, we'll have the dose of reality in the English language. But Aries brings that passion, that fire that can keep igniting that diligent practice energy, into being like, okay, return to this. Okay, return to this again, like, let's go back, let's go back, let's rework, and so they can play off each other. If they work positively.
Speaker 3:At the same time, if they have any sort of negative slight, they go about. They want the same thing and they go about it in two completely opposite ways. Whereas it's like I want this, I'm going to take it now and I'm going to do these actions right now to grab it and I'm going to put all of my force into this task right now to get it, caprocorn is going to be like, okay, I need to plan these things aside and I need to get this ready so that when I have it, I can maintain it, because Caprocorn is more about maintaining power, where Aries is more about grabbing the power, like getting it. I think of Aries as more of the warrior, where Caprocorn is more of the advisor of a king or someone like that, of like I'm managing the system as a whole and making sure the power stays in my hands, whereas Aries is like I'm taking the power from someone else I need to stop right there, aj.
Speaker 1:Is this not? Yeah, this is an hour ago. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I also interact as a Caprocorn with several other Aries. The dichotomy is something that is familiar to me as well Of like we work dichotomy.
Speaker 2:Well, I can already tell you, you misspelled it, so that's interesting. I think that you know, I and again I just keep on saying that's why I think this was such a very interesting topic. It's because people are like, oh, I don't know how you believe in that, and then it's like you just hear these things and it's like if people know me or know you, they'll hear this, what he's explaining, it just makes sense. Yes, it's interesting.
Speaker 1:I'm absolutely obsessed with it. I wish I could have been honest with you and said you know, oh, I went and did a deep dive into my own, which, which I have not, I have not, but it's probably for the better I wouldn't leave. You know you had to mention something, aj that I have all these like glorious books. I don't think you know what's the other book that I have. It's the book of birthdays. It has, you know, one through 365, maybe 66, probably because of 29th, but um, and it just kind of I want to show it to you as well. It goes over everything about you, based on your date of birth.
Speaker 2:It's just for that's a sun sign day. Yeah, that's just for a month and day.
Speaker 1:No, location, not time, yeah, but it's really interesting. It's very old book and it's very interesting to show it to both of you guys at a different time. It seems interesting. But, mason, I I still want to pull an AJ and I want to book a setting just for like me and you, so that I can hear all about me Like I want a whole ass reading.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think beforehand. Well, aj definitely gave me resources, so I was a little bit prepped on everyone's chart for the last time, and so I have technically gone over both of yours charts and right.
Speaker 2:So we can hear a little bit yeah, Um, well, well, how about? We're, um, we're let's. Let's just go over a few other things, and then I think that we could go into a deep dive on part two, because I think that we just have so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you have such a wealth of wealth of knowledge that we need to have a continuation. But at this point, for the little final segment that we're going to finish up with, there was a third chart that I had sent you. Why don't we talk a little bit about that third one and go over some? I want to just understand.
Speaker 3:You're talking about that third chart which was what was the birthday.
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 2:I sent you the pictures in one, so it was in mine, it wasn't his, it was the third one. Okay, yeah, so I did that one as well, so I got the table for that.
Speaker 1:Remind me of the birthday. I honest okay, you're a terrible friend. I'm so sorry go on.
Speaker 3:And so for this person, the big three they are a Libra rising, an Aquarius moon and an Aquarius Sun interesting, so they have a lot of air. The author of theirs is air, which means they probably have a very overall personality, is very intelligent. They're very interested about like learning and knowledge, also communication them.
Speaker 3:They're probably a more social person okay than most and they deal with their tasks socially rather than like to themselves and that kind of thing I would say. The ascendant is Libra, which means they give off a very fair minded, relatively just person, a person that's oriented towards harmony and peace. So they want to try and keep the vibe calm and go. They want to keep the vibe calm, they want to have everyone around them being too like deeper conversations and things like that. They want to learn from others just as much as they will give their knowledge okay, and that kind of thing. For the moon, they have the Sun and the moon and Aquarius. For Aquarius Sun, that's interesting because Aquarius is the humanitarian or the activist sign, which means they have a very. They want to turn everything on its head. If this works this way, they want to ask like why is it that way? Like what is the real reason? These things? And specifically it says that about life a lot. Aquarius with the Sun means that this person wants to turn the current society around and they want to really challenge the preconceived notions of anything, whether that's like political, social, economic, anything like that. They're like well, why is it this way? Like, why can't it be this way? I would say generally in their life they are a question asker and their question asker piece. They feel like it benefits everyone to have that knowledge rather than just like saying that's the way things are. Aquarians probably hate this phrase that's just how life is, because they don't believe in that moon.
Speaker 3:Wise, emotionally, I would say the Aquarius can be, because Aquarius moon as well, they can be a little bit on the, I want to say. Let me think they're very diligent in their emotions. When they express them to other people, they have a very like controlled kind of way of expressing it. At the same time, it can be very, I want to say, like philosophical, or like they're going to phrase their emotions in a way that's like not them or like third person almost, because they want to make sure that they're feeling some sort of way that is compassionate to everyone else, that is, hearing their emotional side as well. Like they're not going to divvy out all of like the drama that they're going through all at once because they're like I know that impacts other people's emotional well-being. Like they're very socially tied into how they affect other people and that goes into their emotional side being relatively like empathetic or compassionate, which at the same time can kind of block their ability to be really true and honest to themselves and how they're actually feeling.
Speaker 3:Okay, and then I'll look into the houses for that. So the Sun and the Moon are both in the fifth house. The fifth house is that creativity is typically associated with creations, romance, it's all the things that you make, which means this person wants to wait.
Speaker 2:Wasn't that the one where the house is like, where there's sluts or something? That was the slut house, was it remember?
Speaker 3:and then he rephrased it remember, I would say because people try and people use it as romance. People use it as romance, but it basically means it can be whatever type of relationships that you have, a romantic relationships or partnerships that you have that don't last a long time. So it can be related to hooking up. It can be related to like small time boyfriend girlfriends, because it's not like the big relationship which is the seventh. He, a trist, is what he was.
Speaker 3:Yes, it can be like the things that you find fun, because it's also the house associated with creativity, like the things that you find fun and that are easy to find fun. So this person probably has that kind of nature as well as an aquarium. They're very like what's the word I want to use? It's just very like whimsical, funny, light spirited a lot of the time, especially just with like how they appear in their emotions come off as that kind of like light air, not super, like deep or sad about things or overly overjoyed or angry about stuff, but more of like hey, man, like this is just how it is or like that's just the vibe I'm going through right now, but it'll change or whatever, and okay with it being in the creativity thing, the moon and the sun.
Speaker 3:It can be that they're very. They have a very unique way of expressing themselves. They might take a lot of their own personal not personal value, but a lot of theirs. What they put into things will be creative, rather than maybe not their family or their career, but it's like what can I design, what can I construct that is completely of my like, heart and soul that I can put on. That will change how people see things or change what people think, because they like to be humanitarian and change how the world goes for the better. They have that kind of spirit and so creative, wise, it means they hope to foster either an environment or they wish to express themselves in a way that is kind of fun and carefree but at the same time makes people think. It makes people challenge the preconceptions they might have had. Just in general, yeah, um off pod.
Speaker 2:What did you think? Um? I want to take this moment um to just you know. Thank you, um for coming and I'm sharing your wealth of knowledge um why I gave you homework and you did it something else um, and you know very capricorn, but doing the homework.
Speaker 2:Do what you gotta do, um, but um, I think we're going to um go ahead and take a little pause and a break and then, um, um have a little part two. So, um, listener, um go ahead and um stay tuned and we'll be back we'll see you guys soon.
Speaker 1:Bye.
